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Welcome! [Mar. 8th, 2006|08:26 pm]
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[laputain]
Hello and welcome to the Universal Conscious Practice community. Good to see you here, and let's see if we can't get some decent discussion going on the Practice - and some decent posts which can show newbies what it's all about, and how it can be useful!

I'd like to get the ball rolling by inviting comment on the following insight which came at the endpoint of a half-hour session I did last night:

Being who I really am is unsafe. But being someone else makes me feel suffocated and angry.

Discuss.
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From: haelen
2006-03-08 06:21 pm (UTC)

Greetings

Hi,

Thanks for setting this up. I'm based in London, England and first came across UCP a few years back. I tried it around this time last year when I was feeling a bit depressed and it improved my mood no end.

This time, I'm doing sessions because another technique I have been using had reached a kind of saturation point. (Or rather I had reached that point with regards to the process.)

I had a great insight today with regards to money. I am now much able to confront issues relating to finance instead of pretending they don't exist or 'haven't got anything to do with spirituality'.

As regards the insight you had at the EP of your session last night, what is it you would like to discuss exactly?

Cheers,
Tim
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[User Picture]From: laputain
2006-03-08 08:14 pm (UTC)

Re: Greetings

Hello Tim - did you follow the link I posted on alt.ucp?

If you read my "back in the fold" message, you'll know that I am increasingly sceptical that the "UCP Chart" as developed by the practice's founder. I'd be interested to know whether you, as someone who've been out of the loop for a while, still find the Chart/Plot a useful "map of the territory" or not.
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From: haelen
2006-03-08 08:40 pm (UTC)
Hi.

No, I can't get that newsgroup. TBH, I haven't used the chart that much. Did you mean to say that the chart wasn't developed by Konchok?

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[User Picture]From: laputain
2006-03-08 08:43 pm (UTC)
KP developed the chart, certainly, by roping together a whole bunch of Scientology-derived scales. The origins of those scales should be enough to make anyone sceptical. :) Certainly, it's a big PR problem for relatively sane persons to mention that the practice has any relation whatsoever with The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power.

So, do you have any way of measuring your progress?
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From: haelen
2006-03-08 08:51 pm (UTC)
Sure. I can see where he got the scales from. The scales are OK as a rough map. There are lots of practices that these days that relate to the CofS - or rather their drills and processes, including Landmark as possibly the largest and most successful example.

Personally it doesn't bother me. A lot of the early 'tech' is extremely useful.

As I said, I've used UCP so infrequently until now that I've simply used my feelings and intuition as a guide to 'where I'm at'
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[User Picture]From: darthsappho
2006-03-14 11:35 pm (UTC)
Landmark seems pretty creepy to me, and it's clearly a money-making scheme.
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[User Picture]From: laputain
2006-03-15 01:19 am (UTC)
Yeah, what darthsappho said. "Most successful" often means "most successful as a moneymaking scheme" - that is, mostly a mind control cult.

UCP is better than any moneymaking scheme because it's free - both in the as-in-speech sense and the as-in-beer sense. Hey, maybe UCP is to orthodox psychotherapy what Linux is to Microsoft. :)


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From: haelen
2006-03-15 08:50 am (UTC)

Landmark

I did 'The Forum' some 15 years ago and it didn't really do it for me. I had a kind of 'workshop high' for about a week.

However, I know that it has been streamlined since then. I have a few friends (2 of who are ex-CofS) who had reall good wins at both The Forum and subsequent workshops. They are hip to the fact that these organisations can get pretty demanding as far as recruiting is concerned, but it doesn't faze them.

Sadly, it's a fact that these types of organisations have money making as one of their primay goals.

However, need that concern us? We have UCP and plenty of other free stuff available on the Net.
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